Yo so I posted about proxies before but man this proxy pool thing got me all messed up now. Been trying to build my own and I keep reading mixed stuff about residential, datacenter, mobile proxies and how they all play with speed. I threw some tests on a few providers and honestly I dunno if I'm just bad at reading results or what but it's confusing as hell. Some say residential are slow but legit, datacenter are fast but easy to block, mobile proxies are somewhere in the middle but harder to detect. so what's the real scoop? I tested like 3 providers yesterday, some are like 200ms ping, others under 50 but then the IPs get banned fast. Is there a way to get a pool that's fast and not easily flagged? Or do I just gotta accept that building my own means choosing what I want and sacrificing speed or stealth? I'm really trying to understand how to mix these right for scraping but it feels like trial and error at this point. Anyone got tips or even just their own speed tests they wanna share? ICYMI, I'm tryna piece together a good proxy pool w/o wasting tons of cash or time.
Alright so I'm at my wits end here. Spent the last month building a custom proxy pool for a scraping project, nothing crazy just product data. Mix of residential IPs from a couple providers and some datacenter ones for speed. Scripts are clean, using puppeteer-extra with stealth plugin, random delays, the works. But the second I run it against even a simple ecomm site, bam, instant block. Not even a captcha, just straight up connection refused or 403. My success rate is like 5%. FWIW, conv rates are zero obviously. I've checked everything. Headers are good, TLS fingerprinting should be handled. Are the IPs just cooked from the start? Do I need to warm them up somehow? Or is my whole approach wrong and I should just be buying those expensive backconnect rotators? Feels like I'm burning cash and time for nothing. Anyone else hit this wall recently? Catch you
so im using ahrefs and semrush every day but sometimes you gotta get your own data straight from google right? ive tried a couple resi proxy providers for scraping serps but either get blocked after like 100 queries or the speed sucks. tried rotating datacenter ips with python requests and user-agent changes but google still catches on eventually. anyone got a real setup that doesnt get your main server ip banned? heard isp proxies might be the middle ground but they cost almost as much as mobile proxies. whats a realistic req per minute you can do before getting flagged these days? fwiw my last test with a backconnect residential pool gave me like 120 successful scrapes then captcha hell.
So I went back and re-ran some speed tests on my go-to providers, and honestly I am more confused than ever. Last time I bought into the hype that Provider A was the fastest across the board but after last month's experiment I gotta ask if those numbers are just BS or if I did something wrong. Same setup, same testing method, just different providers. Provider B claims they are faster, but my ping times and throughput are nearly identical. Meanwhile Provider C, supposed to be good for scraping, shows some of the worst results. I even tested with multiple locations, and the numbers seem to jump all over the place. It feels like everyone's just cherry-picking data or maybe I am missing some hidden factor. Anyone else notice these discrepancies? Or am I just cursed with bad luck and inconsistent results? This whole speed thing is supposed to be straightforward, but man, it's turning into a guessing game
Story time. Been chasing good proxy rotation setups for ages. Tried a bunch of scripts, paid services, even some DIY. Found a deal on a private proxy provider that throws in a free month of rotating residentials with decent speed. Curious if anyone here has tried setting up Python proxy rotators with legit private proxies and what worked best. Just tired of the endless dead ends, the slow speed, the flaky connections. Would love to hear what others are using, especially if you got a discount or a secret sauce. Setting up good rotation is the backbone of scraping, avoiding detection, keeping campaigns alive. Gotta find that sweet spot. This deal might be a moonshot or just another trap, but figured I'd share. Anyone tested their rotation scripts against this provider?
so you think you're clever with puppeteer-extra-stealth, a fresh residential proxy, and randomized timings. spoiler: you're not. the sites i'm hitting are still throwing up captchas after like 3 requests (not even fast ones). using a major proxy provider (you know the one), running the whole anti-fingerprint shebang in a headless browser. my conv rate is basically zero. is the proxy quality sus now or is the fingerprinting stack just outdated? (asking for a friend who's tired of burning cash on this). seen some wild claims about mobile proxies fixing this but their epc is gonna be brutal
Honestly tired of seeing the same dumb advice everywhere about proxies and anti-detection. Everyone just parrots the usual suspects like switch to residentials or toss in some stealth headers and call it a day but the truth is it's way more nuanced. So here's the deal I've been testing out different providers with a focus on anti-fingerprinting and it's clear that no single proxy type or provider is the holy grail. Residentials are good for real user mimicry but some cheap providers still leak info or get flagged if you don't combine them with proper browser fingerprinting tricks or custom headers. Data centers are faster but the fingerprinting detection is tighter, they get blocked faster unless you're really good at blending signals. Mobile proxies? They're decent but you gotta really know how to rotate and handle carrier IDs, device IDs, etc. But the real secret sauce is mixing providers, using a layered approach residentials for the legit feel, mobile proxies for dynamic signals, and some stealth techniques layered in. I've seen some providers do a better job than others, but ymmv since fingerprinting is evolving fast and no one size fits all. Anyone got recent success stories or recommendations for combos that actually hold up against modern detection?
look, i'm so tired of people in every proxy thread just blindly recommending user:pass authentication cuz it's 'more convenient.' yeah, it's convenient like leaving your front door unlocked is convenient. if you're working with anything beyond the most basic scraping script, you're asking for trouble. i've been auditing setups for some of my agency's automation tools and the amount of leaked credentials i find in logs is wild. user:pass is fine if you're the only one touching the config and everything stays on one machine, but scale anything up and it becomes a footprint nightmare. ip whitelisting takes five minutes to set up properly, then your auth is tied to a server ip that doesn't change unless you mess up. just had a client complain their entire residential proxy pool got banned from a data source. guess what? they were using the same user:pass across ten different vps instances because some forum guru said it was easier. now they're paying for new ips while i switch them to whitelists. it's not even about cost, it's about not being dumb.
Hey guys, quick one. I've been using cheap datacenter proxies for scraping and stuff but I feel like they're getting flagged more often lately. Anyone got real experience? Are they just too obvious now or am I missing some tricks? I don't wanna spend tons but I also don't wanna get banned instantly. I'm trying to integrate with this tool called Xtool (not gonna name it lol) and it seems like some proxies work fine at first but then boom, detected. Is it just the proxy provider or is datacenter in general just too risky now? I need a fast reply cause I gotta fix this ASAP. Thanks.
From where I am sitting this proxy game is a mess right now. I've been around since the early days when a good residential was gold and I gotta say I'm honestly shocked at how things went downhill. Everyone's jumping into these shiny proxy providers claiming they're the best but man, most of them are just glorified scams. You get what you pay for and some of these new "premium" providers are basically dumping you into low-quality datacenter hell or selling mobile proxies that are dead on arrival. It's like the wild west out here and honestly it's risky not just for your budget but for your entire sneaker bot operation. A warning to everyone trying to get reliable proxies for sneaker drops if a provider is pushing dirt cheap prices, run. They're prob overselling, reusing IPs, or just plain garbage. And don't fall for the hype about "anti-detection" proxies that don't work. It comes down to trust and transparency and honestly, most of these guys hide behind vague claims and no reviews. I've wasted weeks testing these providers, and I've been burned by providers that promised quality but couldn't even rotate properly or had slow speeds that cost me drops. The truth is the reliable providers like BrightData or Oxylabs are overpriced and hard to justify but at least you get stability. But for most of us trying to stay under budget, it's a gamble every time. If you're serious about this, do your homework. Stay away from the cheap, keep your eyes peeled for real reviews, and remember that with proxies, the cheaper the tricks, the higher your risk of getting banned or burned. Trust me, I've seen it first hand. Stop playing yourself thinking a new provider with flashy sites is the answer. It's all about solid IPs, clean history, and honest support. If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Alright, let's unpack this. Tried crunching the numbers on residential proxy pricing again today, cuz honestly I feel like we're all just throwing darts in the dark. Back in the day, I remember proxies being way cheaper, but now the cost per GB seems to have doubled or tripled depending on the provider. I pulled a few recent invoices and did some math. For example, BrightData charges around 10-15 dollars per GB for residential, but you gotta remember they also have a minimum spend that pushes the average up. Smartproxy is slightly cheaper, around 8-12 dollars, but their bandwidth shaping means slower speeds, so the effective cost might be higher for scraping or quick tasks. Oxylabs? They're pushing close to 20 bucks a GB now, and I can't help but wonder if the premium really gets you enough to justify the cost. So here's my question, anyone done a detailed cost-benefit analysis lately? Are we just paying premium prices for what used to be standard, or is the quality actually worth the premium? I keep running into this wall where the price per GB looks okay but the quality and reliability are all over the place. Breaking down my last few runs, I found that the real cost is in the failed leads or slow speeds, which makes me wonder if cheaper proxies might actually save me more in the long run. Would love to see some fresh perspectives or data from anyone who's done a full cost analysis lately. Maybe I'm missing some hidden gems or tricks to cut the cost while keeping quality high.
Remember when you just grabbed a list and went? Now its all API this and API that. Kinda miss the simpler days. Anyone got good recs for reliable proxy APIs or just sticking to decent lists? Looking for smth solid for scraping and anti-detection. Drop your favs or what you use now, trying to decide if I should jump back to the old school or stick with the new shiny stuff
So, mobile proxies. Everyone says they're top tier. But man they cost a lot. Here's the deal. You're paying for a mobile IP, which is dynamically assigned. Not static, like residential. That makes them harder to block, harder to detect. But that comes with a price. Provider has to buy bulk SIMs, pay for carrier agreements, and handle routing complexity. That cost gets baked in. Plus, good providers monitor carrier quality, not just number of proxies. If you get a cheap mobile proxy deal, probably sketchy. Many resellers load you with cheap SIMs and minimal support. Those often die fast, or worse, get flagged easily. Always check if they actually rotate properly. If provider isn't transparent about carrier type, network management, or how they handle IP stability, run. Many try to sell you mobile proxies as a magic bullet but forget the overhead involved. This isn't cheap, and it's not always reliable if you cut corners. So yeah, real mobile proxies come with a premium. Not just cuz they're mobile, but because quality control and carrier partnerships cost money. Anyone else noticed how the
Alright guys, so I've been messing around with different proxies lately - residential, datacenter, mobile, you name it. and I keep hearing everyone talk about speed tests, throughput, latency, all that jazz. but honestly, what's the proper way to do it? I mean, I've used simple ping and speedtest.net but that's kinda basic right? like, does it actually tell me the real performance under heavy load or when doing actual scraping? I wanna find a solid methodology that makes sense, not just random tests. some say to test from multiple locations, others say use real traffic or mimic user behavior but I'm curious, what do you guys actually do? do you just spin up a bunch of scripts and run some cpm checks? or do you do some kind of stress test with real web requests? I've seen some tools but it feels like every time I try to compare proxies I get wildly different results depending on the time of day, server load, or even the type of site I hit. wondering if anyone has a legit workflow for this, or if I'm missing some hidden trick here. ymmv but I wanna nail this down, especially for scraping projects where speed and reliability matter a ton. thoughts, tips, or even just your failed experiments, I'm all ears.
So I was messing around with some cheap datacenter proxies for a new project and man I got burnt bad. Thought I'd just go for the lowest price, right? But then I kept getting flagged, cookies kept changing, fingerprinting still detecting me. It was like, I thought proxies alone were enough but nooo. Turns out, the quality matters a lot more than price. Residential proxies are premium for anti-fingerprinting but they come with a big cost. Yeah, they're expensive but they blend in better, no doubt. Datacenter proxies, especially cheap ones, are easier to spot, even if they claim to be stealth. You get what you pay for. Mobile proxies? They're kinda in between, but sometimes they work wonders for evading detection because they rotate IPs often and mimic real devices. But ymmv, some are trash too. I've seen some 'reviewed' proxy providers with hype prices, but quality? Meh. It's like a roulette. The real warning I wanna give is don't think you can just buy a bunch of random proxies for anti-fingerprinting and be safe. You need a combo - maybe legit residential + mobile rotation + some fingerprint masking. Just throwing cheap proxies in the mix won't cut it, especially for long sessions or sensitive stuff. I've lost accounts, gotten flagged, and it's not fun. It's like paying for a Ferrari and getting a roller skate. So yeah, price vs quality, don't get blinded by the cheapest options unless you wanna deal with headaches and bans. Choose wisely, test a lot, don't get lazy.
ok i need to vent real quick. so i was testing some new residential proxies for ticket scraping, paid around 200 for 50 ips. setup was stupid easy just plugged the ips into my bot. anyway ran a test last night and dude i copped 40 tickets in like 30 minutes. hit rate was around 33% which is insane for me, my old setup would get maybe 10-15 tops. and i didn't get banned or anything, no captcha spam, no ip blocks. it felt like a straight up cheat code. tbh i was super skeptical at first cause ive burned so much cash on garbage proxies that die instantly. but these things? they're fast and the anti-detection actually works. yeah it's pricey but for the speed it's worth it. already grabbed more for the weekend cause if this keeps up im making bank. just sharing cause i know ticket bans suck and this finally worked for me. gonna keep testing but so far im pumped. anyone else tried something like this?
Alright so I got pulled into a side hustle by a friend trying to bot a popular event ticketing site their setup used datacenter proxies and got insta-banned after like 50 requests I ran a test for them, switched to a mid-tier rotating residential proxy provider burned through about 20GB of traffic over 48 hours split between two different ticketing platforms First site let maybe 700 requests through before the session got flagged and the proxy IP was blacklisted, second site which has Cloudflare fronting it was way stricter only about 300 successful requests before the whole subnet seemed to get dropped this is with basic anti-fingerprinting, consistent headers, random delays between 1-3 seconds Numbers dont lie, the residentials lasted longer but theyre not magic the cost per successful request ended up being way higher than expected like $0.12 per request my take is the margins for scalping gotta be insane to absorb that, classic case of proxy quality being more important than raw speed, anyone else run actual numbers on this or are you just guessing
mobile ips always cost more but right now the markup is crazy. carriers charging a ton just for access, plus dealing with rotating sims and hardware is a pain. you're paying for legit mobile network routing which most platforms see as gold and lower block rates too. seen epc go up like 20-30% on some mobile ad campaigns compared to residential though when it actually works. but $30+ a gb? kinda sus imo. who actually uses them for big volume stuff? not just managing a few social accounts. i'm talking real scraping or ad verification on mobile apps. any providers that won't break the bank? and don't say the big names, their pricing is a joke.
Okay, so I thought I had this nailed with some shiny new static residential proxies. Been messing with different providers, trying to crack the code on what really delivers at the right price. But honestly, its a mess. I bought in thinking static means stable IPs, fewer bans, better session control for some serious scraping. Turns out, the quality is all over the map. Some are dirt cheap but I get caught faster than I can say 'proxy.' Others charge a premium and still deliver flaky IPs, or worse, they rotate just enough to blow my cover. Its like everyone claims static is king but the actual results are so inconsistent its infuriating. The biggest headache is finding that sweet spot where the proxy is legit static, fast enough, and not costing an arm and a leg. And forget about reliable detection evasion. Some providers push static IPs but they're just recycled residentials, so sites catch on quick if you do this long enough. I even tried to build my own pool, but honestly, the good ones are locked behind some obscure pricing or hidden restrictions. I need real talk - anyone cracked the code on decent static residential proxies that actually stick around, don't break the bank, and work for long-term scraping or anti-detection? Or am I better off just biting the bullet and going back to rotating pools? Frustrated as hell here, just looking for some straight answers.
so i was testing for a client scraping project last week and got stuck on ipv4 datacenter stuff always getting flagged like every single time. then i switched to ipv6 residential from a provider i barely ever use and dude, the combo with puppeteer-extra-stealth-plugin is actually pretty crazy. like zero blocks for 24 hours straight scraping this super hard site. i think the main thing was the ipv6 pool size? way less common so maybe fingerprinting isn't as harsh? plus the stealth plugin randomizes viewport, fonts, all that junk. yeah it's still expensive per gb compared to datacenter but for long jobs where u want stability imo this is my new go-to setup. only problem is the tool side of things tho. just tossing ipv6 proxies into a regular scraper didn't do anything, had to tweak the stealth plugin settings to match the proxy type. anyone else try this combo? idk if it's just this site or a bigger trend.